How do I move a database I have developed on my local server (2005) to my client?

Hi all. Probably a simple thing to do but I need to know how to do this. I
have to move the database I created in 2005 Enterprise to 2005 Express on my
client site. Do I just do a back up and burn to a CD and after installing
2005 Express restore the backup? Don't I need the .mdf and the .ldf files
or does the backup procedure in the Studio backup both? I set it to backup
the Database.
Regards,
RobertYou can A) drop the database, copy the mdf and ldf files to CD or
somewhere that you can move them and at the client site attach them or
b) do a backup of the database and restore at the client site. Did you
use any Enterprise features that Express may not support?
Robert Johnson wrote:
> Hi all. Probably a simple thing to do but I need to know how to do this. I
> have to move the database I created in 2005 Enterprise to 2005 Express on my
> client site. Do I just do a back up and burn to a CD and after installing
> 2005 Express restore the backup? Don't I need the .mdf and the .ldf files
> or does the backup procedure in the Studio backup both? I set it to backup
> the Database.
> Regards,
> Robert
>|||I don't believe so.. Just added tables and one view. No triggers, functions
or stuff like that. Relationships between tables and constraints are in
place. The client has less than 5 concurent users so Express should work
fine for him. It's a very small client and small database needs.
Interesting idea about detaching and copy the mdf and ldf to CD. Didn't
think that would work. I'll give that a shot.
Regards and Thanks
Robert
"Brett I. Holcomb" <brettholcomb@.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> You can A) drop the database, copy the mdf and ldf files to CD or
> somewhere that you can move them and at the client site attach them or b)
> do a backup of the database and restore at the client site. Did you use
> any Enterprise features that Express may not support?
>
> Robert Johnson wrote:
>> Hi all. Probably a simple thing to do but I need to know how to do this.
>> I have to move the database I created in 2005 Enterprise to 2005 Express
>> on my client site. Do I just do a back up and burn to a CD and after
>> installing 2005 Express restore the backup? Don't I need the .mdf and
>> the .ldf files or does the backup procedure in the Studio backup both? I
>> set it to backup the Database.
>> Regards,
>> Robert|||I had to ask <G>. I use the attach/detach all the time. After I've
copied the ldf and mdf I reattach to the original db. That's how I move
from our test to production server.
Robert Johnson wrote:
> I don't believe so.. Just added tables and one view. No triggers, functions
> or stuff like that. Relationships between tables and constraints are in
> place. The client has less than 5 concurent users so Express should work
> fine for him. It's a very small client and small database needs.
> Interesting idea about detaching and copy the mdf and ldf to CD. Didn't
> think that would work. I'll give that a shot.
> Regards and Thanks
> Robert
> "Brett I. Holcomb" <brettholcomb@.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:unSxUqUBIHA.3780@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You can A) drop the database, copy the mdf and ldf files to CD or
>> somewhere that you can move them and at the client site attach them or b)
>> do a backup of the database and restore at the client site. Did you use
>> any Enterprise features that Express may not support?
>>
>> Robert Johnson wrote:
>> Hi all. Probably a simple thing to do but I need to know how to do this.
>> I have to move the database I created in 2005 Enterprise to 2005 Express
>> on my client site. Do I just do a back up and burn to a CD and after
>> installing 2005 Express restore the backup? Don't I need the .mdf and
>> the .ldf files or does the backup procedure in the Studio backup both? I
>> set it to backup the Database.
>> Regards,
>> Robert
>|||Thanks again Brett. I'll test it out tomorrow on site. If your ears are
burning...lol.
Robert
"Brett I. Holcomb" <brettholcomb@.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>I had to ask <G>. I use the attach/detach all the time. After I've copied
>the ldf and mdf I reattach to the original db. That's how I move from our
>test to production server.
> Robert Johnson wrote:
>> I don't believe so.. Just added tables and one view. No triggers,
>> functions or stuff like that. Relationships between tables and
>> constraints are in place. The client has less than 5 concurent users so
>> Express should work fine for him. It's a very small client and small
>> database needs. Interesting idea about detaching and copy the mdf and ldf
>> to CD. Didn't think that would work. I'll give that a shot.
>> Regards and Thanks
>> Robert
>> "Brett I. Holcomb" <brettholcomb@.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:unSxUqUBIHA.3780@.TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You can A) drop the database, copy the mdf and ldf files to CD or
>> somewhere that you can move them and at the client site attach them or
>> b) do a backup of the database and restore at the client site. Did you
>> use any Enterprise features that Express may not support?
>>
>> Robert Johnson wrote:
>> Hi all. Probably a simple thing to do but I need to know how to do
>> this. I have to move the database I created in 2005 Enterprise to 2005
>> Express on my client site. Do I just do a back up and burn to a CD and
>> after installing 2005 Express restore the backup? Don't I need the
>> .mdf and the .ldf files or does the backup procedure in the Studio
>> backup both? I set it to backup the Database.
>> Regards,
>> Robert
>>|||Hello Robert,
When you take a backup of a database, you do not need mdf or ldf files of
your database. *.BAK files (which is the backup file) contains all that
files.
This is a comman way used to copy databases or as Brett mentioned, you can
attach\detach your database files.
For additional info: Attaching and Detaching a database is the fastest
method to copy or move a database. However, it takes your database offline
and this would not be good for production environments. So, backing up a
database does not cause a problem like this.
Ekrem Önsoy
"Robert Johnson" <johnson_r@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:%23FPMBlUBIHA.4836@.TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hi all. Probably a simple thing to do but I need to know how to do this. I
> have to move the database I created in 2005 Enterprise to 2005 Express on
> my client site. Do I just do a back up and burn to a CD and after
> installing 2005 Express restore the backup? Don't I need the .mdf and the
> .ldf files or does the backup procedure in the Studio backup both? I set
> it to backup the Database.
> Regards,
> Robert
>|||Thanks Ekrem. I wasn't sure if it had all that I needed.
Regards,
Robert
"Ekrem Önsoy" <ekrem@.btegitim.com> wrote in message
news:F98D9090-F8AE-4DF2-AEFC-30898DE47197@.microsoft.com...
> Hello Robert,
>
> When you take a backup of a database, you do not need mdf or ldf files of
> your database. *.BAK files (which is the backup file) contains all that
> files.
> This is a comman way used to copy databases or as Brett mentioned, you can
> attach\detach your database files.
> For additional info: Attaching and Detaching a database is the fastest
> method to copy or move a database. However, it takes your database offline
> and this would not be good for production environments. So, backing up a
> database does not cause a problem like this.
>
> --
> Ekrem Önsoy
>
> "Robert Johnson" <johnson_r@.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:%23FPMBlUBIHA.4836@.TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi all. Probably a simple thing to do but I need to know how to do this.
>> I have to move the database I created in 2005 Enterprise to 2005 Express
>> on my client site. Do I just do a back up and burn to a CD and after
>> installing 2005 Express restore the backup? Don't I need the .mdf and
>> the .ldf files or does the backup procedure in the Studio backup both? I
>> set it to backup the Database.
>> Regards,
>> Robert
>>
>

How do I make xp_cmdshell transactions run on the client instead of the server

Post title says it all. Any ideas? I asked this earlier but it seems to
have gotten lost in the shuffle.
Randall Arnoldxp_cmdshell runs OS level commands on the server -not the client. Using
xp_cmdshell to run executables on the client is not, in my experience,
something that you even want to attempt. (I'm not saying it can't be
done -just that it is too risky and very troublesome.)
However, if you are trying to have xp_cmdshell read the client computer's
file system, you could take the following steps.
Put xp_cmdshell into a Stored Procedure, use host_name to determine the
client computer and build the unc filepath.
You will be able to read the directory, and read files and write files to
the client computer. (Assuming you have appropriate permissions on the
client computer. Of course, you would NEVER be executing xp_cmdshell with
network admin priviledges, would you?)
While this can be done, the better question is why would you want to do it,
and what are the security ramifications?
Arnie Rowland, YACE*
"To be successful, your heart must accompany your knowledge."
*Yet Another certification Exam
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
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> Post title says it all. Any ideas? I asked this earlier but it seems to
> have gotten lost in the shuffle.
> Randall Arnold
>|||I want to be able to periodically launch a VB script on the client PC.
Security is not an issue at all in this environment.
Randall
"Arnie Rowland" <arnie@.1568.com> wrote in message
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> xp_cmdshell runs OS level commands on the server -not the client. Using
> xp_cmdshell to run executables on the client is not, in my experience,
> something that you even want to attempt. (I'm not saying it can't be
> done -just that it is too risky and very troublesome.)
> However, if you are trying to have xp_cmdshell read the client computer's
> file system, you could take the following steps.
> Put xp_cmdshell into a Stored Procedure, use host_name to determine the
> client computer and build the unc filepath.
> You will be able to read the directory, and read files and write files to
> the client computer. (Assuming you have appropriate permissions on the
> client computer. Of course, you would NEVER be executing xp_cmdshell with
> network admin priviledges, would you?)
> While this can be done, the better question is why would you want to do
> it, and what are the security ramifications?
> --
> Arnie Rowland, YACE*
> "To be successful, your heart must accompany your knowledge."
> *Yet Another certification Exam
>
> "Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
> news:GGaog.32766$Nb2.601914@.news1.nokia.com...
>|||Security is always an issue :) My question would be do you absolutely have
to do this from within SQL Server? If not, I would create a Windows Service
to launch your script on a timer, or something to that effect.
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
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>I want to be able to periodically launch a VB script on the client PC.
>Security is not an issue at all in this environment.
> Randall
> "Arnie Rowland" <arnie@.1568.com> wrote in message
> news:Ohd5kvfmGHA.4700@.TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>|||I'm looking at any and all reasonable options to solving this need, working
several threads in parallel. One idea similar to this one but it requires
the symin role to have write/execute privileges on another server in a
certain folder but the IT guys here can't figure out how to give symin
that ability.
*sigh*
Randall
"Mike C#" <xyz@.xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Security is always an issue :) My question would be do you absolutely
> have to do this from within SQL Server? If not, I would create a Windows
> Service to launch your script on a timer, or something to that effect.
> "Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
> news:fObog.32769$Nb2.601990@.news1.nokia.com...
>|||You are using SQL 2000 right? Honestly this task doesn't belong on SQL
Server. You can probably force the issue, but you'd be better off overall
if you made this a separate application that operated independently of SQL
Server. Is there some particular reason you feel you need to have it kick
off from inside SQL Server?
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
news:MsAog.33256$_k2.585855@.news2.nokia.com...
> I'm looking at any and all reasonable options to solving this need,
> working several threads in parallel. One idea similar to this one but it
> requires the symin role to have write/execute privileges on another
> server in a certain folder but the IT guys here can't figure out how to
> give symin that ability.
> *sigh*
>|||Well there's always VBScript, .BAT files and the dos command shell "at"
command :) I think someone else already mentioned sharing a directory on
the client and mapping a drive to it from the server. Another possibility
(note that I haven't actually tried this...) might be to install MSDE on the
client and run an SP via linked server that runs xp_cmdshell on the client.
Note again that I'm not even sure this would work, as I haven't tried it,
but it might be worth a try... I'd still recommend using a scripting
language of some sort to do the job, but if xp_cmdshell is what you want,
then you might give this a try.
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to do as much as possible via SQL server because that's what we
> have and I lack the tools to "do it right" otherwise. I'd much rather be
> doing this in ASP.NET and deploying everything on the intranet the way it
> SHOULD be done. This facility will be closed by this time next year so
> I'm not exactly seeing people jump all over my resource requests. ; )
> But in the meantime, I still have this demand to deal with...
> Randall|||I've tried scripting, but can't get our IT guys to figure out how to give
symin write/execute privileges on a protected share (where the work needs
to take place and results stored).
Randall
"Mike C#" <xxx@.yyy.com> wrote in message news:jNEog.63$Ur7.47@.fe09.lga...
> Well there's always VBScript, .BAT files and the dos command shell "at"
> command :) I think someone else already mentioned sharing a directory on
> the client and mapping a drive to it from the server. Another possibility
> (note that I haven't actually tried this...) might be to install MSDE on
> the client and run an SP via linked server that runs xp_cmdshell on the
> client. Note again that I'm not even sure this would work, as I haven't
> tried it, but it might be worth a try... I'd still recommend using a
> scripting language of some sort to do the job, but if xp_cmdshell is what
> you want, then you might give this a try.
> "Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
> news:ldDog.33266$_k2.585753@.news2.nokia.com...
>|||If you don't mind, can I ask specifically what you're trying to accomplish?
Someone might be able to give you a better solution if we knew exactly what
you were trying to do. So far it sounds like you might be trying to read
some file(s) in, do some processing on them and write them back out? Or are
you trying to import or export data from SQL Server? Or maybe some
combination?
As for periodically executing a VBScript on a timer, the "at" command could
probably do the trick for you. As for setting share permissions, it all
depends on your network -- you might want to try one of the .networking, .vb
or .vbscript newsgroups (if you haven't already)
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
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> I've tried scripting, but can't get our IT guys to figure out how to give
> symin write/execute privileges on a protected share (where the work
> needs to take place and results stored).
> Randall|||I'm trying to take daily SQL queries and automatically build Powerpoint
presentations containing charts and tables representing data from those
queries (production performance/yield metrics). It's too much work for
people do be constantly burdened with, but I lack the proper tools and have
had trouble getting expenditures approved. This facility will be shuttered
by this time next year... but meanwhile work has to get out and we're told
we have to solve everything for the folks in Mexico who will be taking our
jobs.
Anyway, one poster here showed me how to get SQL Server 2000 Reporting
Services for free, so I've ordered that. I'll try to put management off
until it comes in.
As for the folder access, I have found that simply granting the
Adminstrators group on server A write/execute privileges on a folder on
server B solves my scripting problem. Just having a hard time getting IT
guys to do it.
Thanks for your interest.
Randall
"Mike C#" <xyz@.xyz.com> wrote in message
news:utHt9nEnGHA.3656@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> If you don't mind, can I ask specifically what you're trying to
> accomplish? Someone might be able to give you a better solution if we knew
> exactly what you were trying to do. So far it sounds like you might be
> trying to read some file(s) in, do some processing on them and write them
> back out? Or are you trying to import or export data from SQL Server? Or
> maybe some combination?
> As for periodically executing a VBScript on a timer, the "at" command
> could probably do the trick for you. As for setting share permissions, it
> all depends on your network -- you might want to try one of the
> .networking, .vb or .vbscript newsgroups (if you haven't already)
> "Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
> news:nyUog.32924$Nb2.605940@.news1.nokia.com...
>sql

How do I install sqlcmd.exe in my SQL Server client

I have SQL Server 2000 client installed in my machine and I need to call stored procedures thru sqlcmd utility. When I tried using this utility, I got an error message from command prompt sqlcmd command does not exist.

I have osql utility in my client version, but i need to have sqlcmd utility.

Please advice how do I install sqlcmd.exe in my SQL Server client?SQLCMD was introduced in SQL Server 2005. For SQL Server 200, you can either use the OSQL.exe or the ISQL.exe tool.

HTH, Jens K. Suessmeyer.

http://www.sqlserver2005.de

How do I Hide Databases from External Users?

I am going to give user rights for an external user to connect to my SQL Server via Client Network Utility.

Atlough I have given user permissions to only access one database and not the whole list, how do I make sure that they cannot see all the other databases on my SQL Server?

I have 20 instances of databases on my SQL Server and ideally I would like to give 20 different people access - but each of them when they enter my SQL Server, should not even know that the other databases exist.

Thanks.RE:
Q1 I am going to give user rights for an external user to connect to my SQL Server via Client Network Utility.

Q2 Although I have given user permissions to only access one database and not the whole list, how do I make sure that they cannot see all the other databases on my SQL Server?

I have 20 instances of databases on my SQL Server and ideally I would like to give 20 different people access -

Q3 but each of them when they enter my SQL Server, should not even know that the other databases exist. Thanks.

A1 {What was meant is not 100% clear; however, bestowing "[user rights for an external user to connect to SQL Server]" would generally be accomplished within Enterprise Manager, *Query Analyser, osql, isql, or programmatically, i.e.(via an API: ADO, CLib, DMO, OLEDB, etc.,); but not via the Client Network Utility (at least not directly)?}

A2 One may meet such requirements by designing the user application(s), i.e.(the ones the users will use with their respective DBs), such that other DB catalogs are not displayed. (This is arguably probably one of the better means of meeting such a requirement.)

Note: Various "all encompassing" implementation approaches may entail significant negative consequences. For example this includes many implementations that:
a Deny users Select and Exec rights to certain objects in the Master DB.
b Modify / add objects to the Master DB (this option especially, is NOT recommended).
c Require special connectivity software that supports the desired feature set (custom made ODBC, Sql Server, OLEDB, etc., drivers).

A3 You may wish to verify that this is in fact an important requirement. (That is, one that is worth the ramifications of the means chosen to implement a design that will meet the requirement.) As noted in A2, maintainability and / or functionality may be impaired with some kinds of "DB hiding" implementation approaches.

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* The following Special Stored Procedures are supported in MS Sql Server 2k (execute from QA, etc.) for managing security:
sp_addalias
sp_addapprole
sp_addgroup
sp_addlinkedsrvlogin
sp_addlogin
sp_addremotelogin
sp_addrole
sp_addrolemember
sp_addserver
sp_addsrvrolemember
sp_adduser
sp_approlepassword
sp_change_users_login
sp_changedbowner
sp_changegroup
sp_changeobjectowner
sp_dbfixedrolepermission
sp_defaultdb
sp_defaultlanguage
sp_denylogin
sp_dropalias
sp_dropapprole
sp_dropgroup
sp_droplinkedsrvlogin
sp_droplogin
sp_dropremotelogin
sp_droprole
sp_droprolemember
sp_dropserver
sp_dropsrvrolemember
sp_dropuser
sp_grantdbaccess
sp_grantlogin
sp_helpdbfixedrole
sp_helpgroup
sp_helplinkedsrvlogin
sp_helplogins
sp_helpntgroup
sp_helpremotelogin
sp_helprole
sp_helprolemember
sp_helprotect
sp_helpsrvrole
sp_helpsrvrolemember
sp_helpuser
sp_password
sp_remoteoption
sp_revokedbaccess
sp_revokelogin
sp_setapprole
sp_srvrolepermission
sp_validatelogins|||With what tools will your users be connecting to your Server? ODBC, OSQL, Enterprise Manager?|||Originally posted by Paul Young
With what tools will your users be connecting to your Server? ODBC, OSQL, Enterprise Manager?

Thank you for your posts :)

I am using EM to connect|||Great, what will your users use to connect?

If your users will use EM or Query Analyzer then they have enough to see the diffrent DBs with little to no effort. A knowlegable user can even see system tables via I/OSQL. Past that, in ODBC a use will still be able to get a list of DB's if they specify a database when setting up the DSN.sql

HOW Do I GET DATA ANALYZER TO CONNECT TO MY SSAS 2005 DB's EXTERNALLY?

okay,

I have the SSAS 2005 cubes migrated. I have loaded MS Data Analyzer (the client ad-hoc quesry tool of choice for the CXX's and SSAS 2005) and can connect with no problem LOCALLY on the DA- installed on local machine. I have no lucky externally. I keep getting the error: Cannot connect to the "MYDBSERVER". The server is either not started ot too busy. HELP!!

kj

There coupld be multiple things going on.

1. You are missing new AS 9 OLEDB provider. Download and install Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Analysis Services 9.0 OLE DB Provider from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=d09c1d60-a13c-4479-9b91-9e8b9d835cdc&displaylang=en

2. Your firewall might be blocking AS TCP port. Open port 2383 for default instance of AS.

Edward.
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

How do I find the server name?

I need to deploy a multi-user application to several different customers. My app was built on VB.net and uses SQL Server Express. For remote client to connect to the server I understand that I need to use a connection string something like this:
“Server=ServerName;Database=myDB;Trusted_Connection=True;”

My question is, how will I know what the server name is? Can that be different for different customers? When I test this on my PC, I use (Server=.\SQLEXPRESS;), but what do I use for deployment?

Thanks.

hi,

for each "remote" client, you have to store (on each client) the server instance name they are pointing to...

if I have to connect form my machine to your SQLExpress instance, I should connect to YourMachineName\SQLExpress, as you installed a named instance...

you can perhaps have a look at http://www.sqldev.net/misc.htm for 3 different way to enlist SQL Server instances on the lan...

regards

|||

Thank you Andrea for your response. I would like to make the installation an automated process using InstallShield. I will have two install packages - one for Server and the other for Clients. How can I find the ServerName during the client install?

P.S: I was trying to locate a relevant article/info at the site you mentioned, but could not find any. I would appreciate it if you can point me to a specific article.

|||

hi,

unfortunately, usually you can't...

say you install the "clients" before SQL Server ()... how can you tell what the server name is?

you can perhaps, in your InstallShield code, try instantiating a SQL-DMO.SQLServer object to perform a network scan of installed instances, but this will fail if SQL-DMO has not been already locally installed on the client workstation..

but you can find "smart" solutions.. you can define a share where all your client will point to in order to read some "config" file where they can find the SQL Server they will connect to, but you are there again.. how can you define the network share your app should look for at install time?

so just provide, in your client application, a tool\dialog to define the server name.. at very first startup it could be void and the dialog can automatically pop up, so that the user can finally "browse for installed SQL Server instances" the way you like or is just required to type it's name as the local admin already reported him by internal mail

regards

|||

Thank you for your reply. I have written below what I am thinking as to how I may go about it. Please review and let me know if you have suggestions or comments.

On the install CD, there will be only a Server Install package. During the server installation, it creates a "Client Install" folder and copies Client Install files to that folder. Also it creates a text file called "ServerName.txt" in the same folder and writes the Server's Computer name on it.

To install a client, from the client machine user needs to access the folder on the server and run install. The Client install process reads the Server Computer Name and creates a registry entry on the client.

My application, when run, it reads the "Server's Computer Name" from the registry and coins the connection string and connects to the server.

Please let me know if I can make this process more efficient.

Thanks.

|||

hi,

yes, this can be a "smart" solution...

regards