How do I make xp_cmdshell transactions run on the client instead of the server

Post title says it all. Any ideas? I asked this earlier but it seems to
have gotten lost in the shuffle.
Randall Arnoldxp_cmdshell runs OS level commands on the server -not the client. Using
xp_cmdshell to run executables on the client is not, in my experience,
something that you even want to attempt. (I'm not saying it can't be
done -just that it is too risky and very troublesome.)
However, if you are trying to have xp_cmdshell read the client computer's
file system, you could take the following steps.
Put xp_cmdshell into a Stored Procedure, use host_name to determine the
client computer and build the unc filepath.
You will be able to read the directory, and read files and write files to
the client computer. (Assuming you have appropriate permissions on the
client computer. Of course, you would NEVER be executing xp_cmdshell with
network admin priviledges, would you?)
While this can be done, the better question is why would you want to do it,
and what are the security ramifications?
Arnie Rowland, YACE*
"To be successful, your heart must accompany your knowledge."
*Yet Another certification Exam
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
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> Post title says it all. Any ideas? I asked this earlier but it seems to
> have gotten lost in the shuffle.
> Randall Arnold
>|||I want to be able to periodically launch a VB script on the client PC.
Security is not an issue at all in this environment.
Randall
"Arnie Rowland" <arnie@.1568.com> wrote in message
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> xp_cmdshell runs OS level commands on the server -not the client. Using
> xp_cmdshell to run executables on the client is not, in my experience,
> something that you even want to attempt. (I'm not saying it can't be
> done -just that it is too risky and very troublesome.)
> However, if you are trying to have xp_cmdshell read the client computer's
> file system, you could take the following steps.
> Put xp_cmdshell into a Stored Procedure, use host_name to determine the
> client computer and build the unc filepath.
> You will be able to read the directory, and read files and write files to
> the client computer. (Assuming you have appropriate permissions on the
> client computer. Of course, you would NEVER be executing xp_cmdshell with
> network admin priviledges, would you?)
> While this can be done, the better question is why would you want to do
> it, and what are the security ramifications?
> --
> Arnie Rowland, YACE*
> "To be successful, your heart must accompany your knowledge."
> *Yet Another certification Exam
>
> "Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
> news:GGaog.32766$Nb2.601914@.news1.nokia.com...
>|||Security is always an issue :) My question would be do you absolutely have
to do this from within SQL Server? If not, I would create a Windows Service
to launch your script on a timer, or something to that effect.
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
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>I want to be able to periodically launch a VB script on the client PC.
>Security is not an issue at all in this environment.
> Randall
> "Arnie Rowland" <arnie@.1568.com> wrote in message
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>|||I'm looking at any and all reasonable options to solving this need, working
several threads in parallel. One idea similar to this one but it requires
the symin role to have write/execute privileges on another server in a
certain folder but the IT guys here can't figure out how to give symin
that ability.
*sigh*
Randall
"Mike C#" <xyz@.xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Security is always an issue :) My question would be do you absolutely
> have to do this from within SQL Server? If not, I would create a Windows
> Service to launch your script on a timer, or something to that effect.
> "Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
> news:fObog.32769$Nb2.601990@.news1.nokia.com...
>|||You are using SQL 2000 right? Honestly this task doesn't belong on SQL
Server. You can probably force the issue, but you'd be better off overall
if you made this a separate application that operated independently of SQL
Server. Is there some particular reason you feel you need to have it kick
off from inside SQL Server?
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
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> I'm looking at any and all reasonable options to solving this need,
> working several threads in parallel. One idea similar to this one but it
> requires the symin role to have write/execute privileges on another
> server in a certain folder but the IT guys here can't figure out how to
> give symin that ability.
> *sigh*
>|||Well there's always VBScript, .BAT files and the dos command shell "at"
command :) I think someone else already mentioned sharing a directory on
the client and mapping a drive to it from the server. Another possibility
(note that I haven't actually tried this...) might be to install MSDE on the
client and run an SP via linked server that runs xp_cmdshell on the client.
Note again that I'm not even sure this would work, as I haven't tried it,
but it might be worth a try... I'd still recommend using a scripting
language of some sort to do the job, but if xp_cmdshell is what you want,
then you might give this a try.
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
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> I'm trying to do as much as possible via SQL server because that's what we
> have and I lack the tools to "do it right" otherwise. I'd much rather be
> doing this in ASP.NET and deploying everything on the intranet the way it
> SHOULD be done. This facility will be closed by this time next year so
> I'm not exactly seeing people jump all over my resource requests. ; )
> But in the meantime, I still have this demand to deal with...
> Randall|||I've tried scripting, but can't get our IT guys to figure out how to give
symin write/execute privileges on a protected share (where the work needs
to take place and results stored).
Randall
"Mike C#" <xxx@.yyy.com> wrote in message news:jNEog.63$Ur7.47@.fe09.lga...
> Well there's always VBScript, .BAT files and the dos command shell "at"
> command :) I think someone else already mentioned sharing a directory on
> the client and mapping a drive to it from the server. Another possibility
> (note that I haven't actually tried this...) might be to install MSDE on
> the client and run an SP via linked server that runs xp_cmdshell on the
> client. Note again that I'm not even sure this would work, as I haven't
> tried it, but it might be worth a try... I'd still recommend using a
> scripting language of some sort to do the job, but if xp_cmdshell is what
> you want, then you might give this a try.
> "Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
> news:ldDog.33266$_k2.585753@.news2.nokia.com...
>|||If you don't mind, can I ask specifically what you're trying to accomplish?
Someone might be able to give you a better solution if we knew exactly what
you were trying to do. So far it sounds like you might be trying to read
some file(s) in, do some processing on them and write them back out? Or are
you trying to import or export data from SQL Server? Or maybe some
combination?
As for periodically executing a VBScript on a timer, the "at" command could
probably do the trick for you. As for setting share permissions, it all
depends on your network -- you might want to try one of the .networking, .vb
or .vbscript newsgroups (if you haven't already)
"Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
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> I've tried scripting, but can't get our IT guys to figure out how to give
> symin write/execute privileges on a protected share (where the work
> needs to take place and results stored).
> Randall|||I'm trying to take daily SQL queries and automatically build Powerpoint
presentations containing charts and tables representing data from those
queries (production performance/yield metrics). It's too much work for
people do be constantly burdened with, but I lack the proper tools and have
had trouble getting expenditures approved. This facility will be shuttered
by this time next year... but meanwhile work has to get out and we're told
we have to solve everything for the folks in Mexico who will be taking our
jobs.
Anyway, one poster here showed me how to get SQL Server 2000 Reporting
Services for free, so I've ordered that. I'll try to put management off
until it comes in.
As for the folder access, I have found that simply granting the
Adminstrators group on server A write/execute privileges on a folder on
server B solves my scripting problem. Just having a hard time getting IT
guys to do it.
Thanks for your interest.
Randall
"Mike C#" <xyz@.xyz.com> wrote in message
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> If you don't mind, can I ask specifically what you're trying to
> accomplish? Someone might be able to give you a better solution if we knew
> exactly what you were trying to do. So far it sounds like you might be
> trying to read some file(s) in, do some processing on them and write them
> back out? Or are you trying to import or export data from SQL Server? Or
> maybe some combination?
> As for periodically executing a VBScript on a timer, the "at" command
> could probably do the trick for you. As for setting share permissions, it
> all depends on your network -- you might want to try one of the
> .networking, .vb or .vbscript newsgroups (if you haven't already)
> "Randall Arnold" <randall.nospam.arnold@.nospamnokia.com.> wrote in message
> news:nyUog.32924$Nb2.605940@.news1.nokia.com...
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